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aletheiafelinea) wrote2018-12-22 12:06 am
aletheiafelinea) wrote2018-12-22 12:06 am
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Well, well, well...
You certainly know this all, but for the sake of keeping things orderly, let’s sum them up:
Phase 1
On December 3rd, Tumblr announced it’s kicking porn out. Yes, in the middle of December, just before Christmas, out into the freezing night, with no clothes at all. Which is only half of the drama yet, because:
A. they set the rules stricter than anything outside Saudi Arabia’s official domain; ‘female presenting nipples’ became a meme within hours.
B. instead of doing it by hand (frankly impossible at this stage, and besides, rumor has it the staff is severely underman... underwo... underpersoned these days) they sicced bots; bots went flagging frenzy right and left, the staff’s own announcement got flagged.
Next days were lots of fun, because of all the people trying to find porn in whatever they had flagged.
# skin tones, probably; well, as if anyone doubted before that desert is hot;
# the guess was hands in the crotch, either that or the bot went Victorian about that *le gasp* ankle;
# a church tower... okay, I really didn’t need that thought; admittedly it was a very, em, upright tower.
The staff promised every flag could have been appealed to be checked by a human mod. Since it (mostly?) worked, I call bullshit: no way they’d have people for checking appeals if they lacked people for flagging in the first place. My guess is the review request feature was set to accept by default, on an assumption no one would appeal for an actual porn. (Which totally means people should. :> )
Phase 2
The December 17th Doomsday came and went. On December 18th, the first new follower on one of my tumblrs was a pornbot. :3 Ahem, let's be merciful and refrain from commenting. (no, not really XD)
Now, between phase 1 and 2, people jumped Tumbtanic from all sides, or at least talked about where to swim. Contact databases are being put up, in case you’re interested:
#![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
copperbadge’s multifandom sheet; here you can check it out, and here you can add yourself;
# Captain America
# SPN general: the sheet, the form
# SPN Destiel
# Teen Wolf
# HP Drarry
# Star Wars Reylo artists: the sheet, the form
# Star Wars Reylo writers: the sheet, the form
# Star Wars Reylo general: the sheet, the form
# Sheith/Voltron
Pillowfort is the name most often tossed around, and yeah, unless something goes seriously sideways, my private prediction is this will be the next hot place. Not even because of its ability, but because it’s most often tossed around, which makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy. At the same time I won’t be very surprised if something else takes over in the end, because right now competitors for the userbase of Tumblr’s carcass-in-becoming are sprouting out there like fungi in a dank corner. Still, none seems as popular as Pillowfort already is, not counting old players like Dreamwidth. Hence I decided, why not to be one of the first on the bandwagon for once, instead one of the last, as my usual. I’m on Pillowfort here, feel invited. For the record, I’m not going from LJ anywhere for – probably – long time yet; I’m not even shutting down my tumblr(s).
Future maybe-maybe-not popularity notwithstanding, huge factor for my decision was that Pillowfort indeed fuses what LJ has and the disaster called Tumblr has been lacking (comments and communities) with what Tumblr has and the fandom apparently cannot live without anymore (likes and reblogs). However, the site is still in dire need of development in basically every department, from the layout to speed to FAQ. It’s also an urgent need; seems like the staff is currently a little bit overwhelmed with the sudden general interest, together with the servers. Right now, the self-organizing userbase is doing half of the work. Which I find very promising, btw. The fandom in the “Okay, guys, all hands aboard” mode is one of the best sights to behold in the Net, right next to kittens.
For now, Pillowfort has already made at least one own native creation – “hitching post”. A regular (or not) collection of “discussions I recently participated in and/or recommend”. We should have thought of this on LJ long ago.
Phase 1
On December 3rd, Tumblr announced it’s kicking porn out. Yes, in the middle of December, just before Christmas, out into the freezing night, with no clothes at all. Which is only half of the drama yet, because:
A. they set the rules stricter than anything outside Saudi Arabia’s official domain; ‘female presenting nipples’ became a meme within hours.
B. instead of doing it by hand (frankly impossible at this stage, and besides, rumor has it the staff is severely underman... underwo... underpersoned these days) they sicced bots; bots went flagging frenzy right and left, the staff’s own announcement got flagged.
Next days were lots of fun, because of all the people trying to find porn in whatever they had flagged.
# skin tones, probably; well, as if anyone doubted before that desert is hot;
# the guess was hands in the crotch, either that or the bot went Victorian about that *le gasp* ankle;
# a church tower... okay, I really didn’t need that thought; admittedly it was a very, em, upright tower.
The staff promised every flag could have been appealed to be checked by a human mod. Since it (mostly?) worked, I call bullshit: no way they’d have people for checking appeals if they lacked people for flagging in the first place. My guess is the review request feature was set to accept by default, on an assumption no one would appeal for an actual porn. (Which totally means people should. :> )
Phase 2
The December 17th Doomsday came and went. On December 18th, the first new follower on one of my tumblrs was a pornbot. :3 Ahem, let's be merciful and refrain from commenting. (no, not really XD)
Now, between phase 1 and 2, people jumped Tumbtanic from all sides, or at least talked about where to swim. Contact databases are being put up, in case you’re interested:
#
copperbadge’s multifandom sheet; here you can check it out, and here you can add yourself;# Captain America
# SPN general: the sheet, the form
# SPN Destiel
# Teen Wolf
# HP Drarry
# Star Wars Reylo artists: the sheet, the form
# Star Wars Reylo writers: the sheet, the form
# Star Wars Reylo general: the sheet, the form
# Sheith/Voltron
Pillowfort is the name most often tossed around, and yeah, unless something goes seriously sideways, my private prediction is this will be the next hot place. Not even because of its ability, but because it’s most often tossed around, which makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy. At the same time I won’t be very surprised if something else takes over in the end, because right now competitors for the userbase of Tumblr’s carcass-in-becoming are sprouting out there like fungi in a dank corner. Still, none seems as popular as Pillowfort already is, not counting old players like Dreamwidth. Hence I decided, why not to be one of the first on the bandwagon for once, instead one of the last, as my usual. I’m on Pillowfort here, feel invited. For the record, I’m not going from LJ anywhere for – probably – long time yet; I’m not even shutting down my tumblr(s).
Future maybe-maybe-not popularity notwithstanding, huge factor for my decision was that Pillowfort indeed fuses what LJ has and the disaster called Tumblr has been lacking (comments and communities) with what Tumblr has and the fandom apparently cannot live without anymore (likes and reblogs). However, the site is still in dire need of development in basically every department, from the layout to speed to FAQ. It’s also an urgent need; seems like the staff is currently a little bit overwhelmed with the sudden general interest, together with the servers. Right now, the self-organizing userbase is doing half of the work. Which I find very promising, btw. The fandom in the “Okay, guys, all hands aboard” mode is one of the best sights to behold in the Net, right next to kittens.
For now, Pillowfort has already made at least one own native creation – “hitching post”. A regular (or not) collection of “discussions I recently participated in and/or recommend”. We should have thought of this on LJ long ago.
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discussions, fic and art recs, somewhere to market my work, fandom news, and perhaps kittens (or puppies)
All this should be covered same as on Tumblr when it gathers a bigger userbase (news, kittens, fanworks) or already is covered better than on Tumblr (discussions). Pillowfort seems to be rather LJ with Tumblr's appearance than the other way around, which I think is promising, as long as it keeps developing. Currently Pillowfort has just ~25k of users. I certainly didn't go there because I wanted a new place; I just made my guess on what fandom can do now. Which may or may not come true, heh.
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That does seem useful! (LJ does have the "recent comments" feature, which could sometimes be used for that -- but maybe just for paid accounts? It's been so long, I don't remember what's what anymore...)
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where I never go anyway? But it's only recent ones, and apparently works only for one's own journal, and not for wherever you commented. If I get it well, on Pillowfort they didn't make it a feature of the site itself (yet?), but a part of user culture - you just post a post and say "hey, you may be interested in those discussions I had recently, wanna jump in?".no subject
And I see what you mean about Pillowfort it being part of user culture. It's an interesting idea which could be handy! (depending on how people use it, of course, like anything)
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*żyje pod kamieniem*
Nigdy nie byłam specjalnie blisko z tumblrem, śledziłam jeden czy dwa dla strategicznych informacji fanowskich, ale Twój post uświadomił mi, jak daleko odpłynęłam. Wdzięcznam za rzeczowe streszczenie wydarzeń :)
bots went flagging frenzy right and left, the staff’s own announcement got flagged.
Next days were lots of fun, because of all the people trying to find porn in whatever they had flagged.
Do przewidzenia :D Jak boty miałyby odróżniać porno od nie-porno, skoro dwie osoby mogłyby mieć czasem trzy zdania. A przykłady świetne!
My guess is the review request feature was set to accept by default, on an assumption no one would appeal for an actual porn.
Trochę jak u mnie na jednym przedmiocie na studiach, specjalny program generował i sprawdzał nam zadania, i jak się miało uwagi, to można było poprosić o sprawdzenie przez człowieka. Wszystkie moje prośby kończyły się przyznaniem punktu, do dziś nie wiem, czy miałam to dobrze, czy się sprawdzać nie chciało...
The December 17th Doomsday came and went. On December 18th, the first new follower on one of my tumblrs was a pornbot. :3
Czyli... nic się nie zmieniło?
Tumbtanic
<3
Ciekawe, ile ludzi/społeczności faktycznie się przeniosło.
my private prediction is this will be the next hot place.
*pilnie notuje, może się przydać*
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Z ciekawości, przetrwały?
A przykłady świetne!
Nie mogę nie dołączyć także memów. :3 1 (https://66.media.tumblr.com/858c82bee8a37b7ba38ee495a24c4705/tumblr_pjy9na8b7N1r9q0yeo1_640.png), 2 (http://runofthemillsocialist.tumblr.com/post/180762384678/female-presenting-nipples), 3 (https://am22.akamaized.net/tms/cnt/uploads/2018/12/female-presenting-nipples.jpg), oraz najnajnajszy 4 (https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/438/813/14e.png)
A poza oficjalnym ogłoszeniem Tumblr dołożył jeszcze oficjalny post z przykładami, co wolno. Była między innymi kamienna rzeźba w klasycznym ogrodowym typie, kobieta na badaniu ultrasonograficznym i nie pamiętam co tam jeszcze. Też go oflagowało. :3
Nagroda specjalna za The Best Idea for Trolling Tumblr idzie do kogoś, kto na Reddicie rzucił myślą: porno blog składający się wyłącznie z męskich sutków. Nie wiem, czy ktokolwiek zrealizował, prosimy o zgłoszenia, nagroda za współudział czeka.
Tak że ten. Ogółem pożar w burdelu i dwa tygodnie darmowej komedii. ^^
Wszystkie moje prośby kończyły się przyznaniem punktu, do dziś nie wiem, czy miałam to dobrze, czy się sprawdzać nie chciało...
Czyli z góry zakładali, że wszyscy zgłaszający chcą wyjęczeć/wygrozić wyższą ocenę, a nie faktycznie się czegoś dowiedzieć...
Czyli... nic się nie zmieniło?
Hm... Modelki na reklamach są ubrane. Namolność pozostała na tym samym poziomie.
*pilnie notuje, może się przydać*
Update sytuacyjny: Pillowfort wciąż ma szansę, ale raczej w dłuższej perspektywie. Na razie zwyczajnie nie wyrabia się z funkcjonalnością (paździerzowaty layout i wydolność serwerów) i ma za mało userów, co po części wynika z pierwszego, a po części jest samonakręcające - jest mały ruch, bo ludzie widzą mały ruch i się zniechęcają. Przyrost jednak jest, więc jeśli się utrzyma, to w którymś momencie masa krytyczna przechyli sprawy w drugą stronę - popularność nakręci większą popularność. Na razie jednak wszystko jest na etapie "jeśli", a Tumblrytów przejmują Twitter i Instagram, mimo że są gorsze dla grafiki i dyskusji nawet niż Tumblr.
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<turla się> Na humor użytkowników zawsze można liczyć :D
<i>Była między innymi kamienna rzeźba w klasycznym ogrodowym typie, kobieta na badaniu ultrasonograficznym i nie pamiętam co tam jeszcze. Też go oflagowało. :3</i>
<turla się jeszcze raz> Na ironię życia też.
<i>Na razie jednak wszystko jest na etapie "jeśli", a Tumblrytów przejmują Twitter i Instagram, mimo że są gorsze dla grafiki i dyskusji nawet niż Tumblr.</i>
Dziwi mnie popularność Instagrama w tym kontekście, bywa, że ma przewagę nawet nad Facebookiem, na przykład fanpejdżem. Ludzie teoretycznie zainteresowani kimś albo czymś są bardziej zainteresowani zdjęciem niż postem ze zdjęciem.
EDIT, bo zapomniałam
<i>Z ciekawości, przetrwały?</i>
Jeden, którego zapamiętałam i odnalazłam - tak. Nie pamiętam, co jeszcze śledziłam ;)
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Bo tak szybciej, przypuszczam... :/ A Instagram działa jakby ktoś usiadł i powiedział "Ej, a jakby tak jeszcze bardziej spieprzyć Tumblra." Przecież toto przycina wszystko do kwadratu i pozwala dodawać tylko z wersji mobilnej! o___O
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Then again, I haven't been using LJ/DW/tumblr for weeks (months?), just couldn't find the motivation to write and post. Especially because internet speed in my village is... mediocre. Let's call it that. Which is a very bad thing for tumblr or anything else that has to load lots of gifs. No problems with videos most of the time, but gifs. Ohhh boy. :(
I'm on Pillowfort as well, but haven't done much at all. *shrugs*
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No problems with videos most of the time, but gifs. Ohhh boy. :(
I feel your pain, yes, Tumblr is terrible for lagging connections and weaker hardware... :(
I'm on Pillowfort as well, but haven't done much at all. *shrugs*
Yeah, same here. I still hope it's going to be big in the future, but for now... Then again, it's never gonna be big if everyone thinks the same and keeps waiting. On the other hand, I'm kind of "hmmm..." at the updated Terms of Service. They started as a wannabe better Tumblr, but I don't think they're handling it well, especially how they try to prevent child porn using the wording that makes them another Tumblr, just with (adult) female nipples allowed. I mean, it seems like they don't realize (yet), but they effectively banned Ilon Wikland, Pierre Joubert, Antonio Canova, pretty much half the European Renaissance & Baroque, and appproximately a zillion of touristy "me and Manneken Pis" pics. I actually thought for a while of posting about it, but I feel it would be awkward - months of keeping the newly made account dead, and when I finally contribute something, it's a criticism? :] Not to mention that "a better Tumblr" was at least by some hoped to mean SJW-free, and yet those who point out logical traps of the Pillowfort TOS are already often labeled pedos...
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It's a very difficult topic and it seems nowadays people are very quick to scream SJW even if it's legitimate criticism. We'll see how this'll turn out. I just don't have the energy anymore to get riled up by all the drama.