http://aletheiafelinea.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] aletheiafelinea.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] aletheiafelinea 2015-06-07 03:14 pm (UTC)

As for strong women = feminist = good, liked character - please pardon my Hermione moment - that is first wave feminism. Second wave is from the seventies. this is such an old fashines feminist perspective ugh!
*steps off of soapbox*

I'm not any close to being an expert on feminism, but I think you should rather tell it those still repeating it and calling themselves feminist today. ;)

For me, and I so don't mean to put down characters other people love - you might want to skip to the next paragraph - till season 7 there was not one single woman/girl character the show bothered to give depth, certainly not like the boys, but not even like Bobby or John. Some were made awesome by fandom, but mostly one the show - ugh ugh ugh ugh - they made me extremely uncomfortale and embarrassed for the writers, and I am still pretty pissed off about that, not to mention Kripke blaming fans for his bad writing.
For me, there was Bela (and my only beef with Kripke is for killing her off and explaining it was on the fandom demand; well, if it was, it's your show, dude), Ellen (I'm not that fond of Jo, in spite of her popularity), Meg v.1 (why they had to change the actress, sniff). Ruby, especially the v.1, was pretty big character, too, but I'm not really a fan. As for Bobby and John, on the other hand, Bobby took some shapes in my eyes not before season 3 (in spite of him being my #1 character now!), and John hasn't really to this moment. For me, the fandom made John more than the canon itself.

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